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Set a Blank Password in Windows XP To Protect the Computer from Internet Attacks

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Some useful information. Your Windows XP computer is more safe if you don't set any password at all than using some weak password like "abc123" which can be easily guessed by hackers.

Using a blank password (or no password at all) makes your computer more secure because Windows XP accounts, that are not protected by a password, cannot be accessed remotely over the network or the Internet.

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{"commentId":1547122,"authorDomain":"michaelsautter"}

Microsoft even seems to recommend this.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 11:02 AM EST
{"commentId":1548066,"authorDomain":"thura"}

That is so lame that the safest thing for your computer is NOT to set a password.

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  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:00 PM EST
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{"commentId":1547341,"authorDomain":"anthopos"}

That's interesting. Working with Unix, I'd never think of making a login safer by not using a password.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 11:57 AM EST
{"commentId":1547374,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}

The problem with really STRONG passwords is that you cannot remember them. At one point we had to have a different password for access to different parts of a system. We had to change it every month. We were not allowed to continue the same password. After a while a memo came out, "it is not proper to have your password on a sticky note on your monitor".

Just how are people to remember 6 or 8 'strong' passwords that have to be changed every 4 weeks?

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  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 12:05 PM EST
{"commentId":1547420,"authorDomain":"anthopos"}

What I nightmare. I have my passwords encyrpted on a thumb drive. That way I only have to remember one strong password.

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  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 12:15 PM EST
{"commentId":1547569,"authorDomain":"newsguru"}

That's exactly what I do too Perry.

I'm guessing passwords will end up having to be so complex one day, we'll probably have to write them down.

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  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 12:51 PM EST
{"commentId":1547953,"authorDomain":"DeepThought"}

Windows passwords need be at least 20 characters long and consist of alphanumeric (upper & lower case) and special symbols to prevent the password being revealed by a custom rainbow attack.

If your windows password is just alphanumeric and under 14 characters long, it should take less than a minute to reveal using a special CD.

Try OphCrack:
http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/

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  • 2 votes
#2.4 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 2:32 PM EST
{"commentId":1548238,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

writing them down not a bad idea..
change one char in a 20 char password and noone will know why it doesn't work.
ophcrack rocks and is scry.. I remember when what it did took days not minutes.
you can have a thumb drive login.. like natural login that holds a "key" to let you in, isntead of a pass.
(still uses a pass but you can make it huge and just use the key)

also it is a good idea to encrypt anything you wouldn't wanted posted on a public wall. total disk encryption rocks. I recommend true crypt highly. they just came out with a new version.

true crypt also has some plasuible deniability.. where you can make a fake container incase ou are tortured for your pass. The fake container can be a complete os.

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  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:47 PM EST
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{"commentId":1547563,"authorDomain":"proton01"}

This cannot be true. Brute force attack program most likely will try $null before moving onto the password list.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 12:50 PM EST
{"commentId":1547619,"authorDomain":"anthopos"}
Windows XP accounts, that are not protected by a password, cannot be accessed remotely over the network or the Internet.

Sounds like XP wouldn't let them in even if they did try $null.

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  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 1:02 PM EST
{"commentId":1547957,"authorDomain":"DeepThought"}

It wouldn't matter if it did. The local Security policy has a setting that prevents remote logins if the password is not set.

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  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 2:34 PM EST
{"commentId":1548245,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

I also use ids that would lock someone out tryign to brute force.
no reason to let someone have 100 trys before lockout.

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  • 1 vote
#3.3 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:49 PM EST
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{"commentId":1547591,"authorDomain":"proton01"}

This cannot be true. Brute force attack programs typically try $null before moving on the password lists.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 12:55 PM EST
{"commentId":1547732,"authorDomain":"Rigbee"}

Brute force attack programs are useless if you can't access the computer.

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  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 1:28 PM EST
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{"commentId":1547931,"authorDomain":"michaelsautter"}

Would this work in Windows Vista as well?

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  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 2:23 PM EST
{"commentId":1548269,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

don't run your computer as admin
being behind a router rocks.. think about it.
get a good intrusion detection system.. I like snort.
encrypt your private files and data.
honey pots can be fun.. give the hackers something to keep them buzy(wonder what the pass to that thing that sez credit card passes is... lol)
rename the admin account
disable the guest accounts.
another stoopid trick that fools some kiddies..(ok wont fool the elite for long)
make a new account called administrator with an insane passord, but make it really a limited user account.. if they finally break in they will have no rights to do anything.
or don't listen to me
read what the US NSA has to say on securing your XP these guides really rock.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:54 PM EST
{"commentId":1552330,"authorDomain":"Sideways"}

Well, if XP disallows blank remotes, then somewhere it's told to do that. ;)

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  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Fri Mar 7, 2008 3:28 PM EST
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