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MICHAEL SAUTTER
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Apple to be sued for 'stifling free speech' about iTunes
News Type: Event — Seeded on Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:45 PM EDT
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Apple is being threatened with legal action for silencing an online forum discussing how to use iPods without the need for the iTunes website.
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{"commentId":6764814,"authorDomain":"michaelsautter"}
. . . but, but . . . I thought Apple were the good guys . . .
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#1 - Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:01 PM EDT{"commentId":6767481,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Have you heard yet about Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy? More disappointment coming........
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{"commentId":6773420,"authorDomain":"checkerbattery"}
Don't worry Michael, I'm sure you'll soon see the Apple zealots come to their defense and rationalize yet another oppressive, freedom-stomping policy from their leaders who want nothing more than to maintain the lock-in imposed on their customers. Anything can all be explained away if you try hard enough. Just watch.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":6810006,"authorDomain":"masternav"}
Lead of course, checker, by the anti-Apple zealots I suppose, using their entire library of negative hyperbole in order to froth a bit and attempt to castigate anyone foolish enough to attempt the defense. Brilliant, and yet so tiresomely predictable.
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{"commentId":6764992,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
This "lawsuit" is coming from the EFF...who are a bunch of nut jobs. They're probably still bitter because their beloved OGG still isn't supported.
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#2 - Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:11 PM EDT{"commentId":6767513,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
On one of BluWiki's forums last year, "hobbyists" posted information detailing ways to get Apple's iPhones and iPod MP3 players to synchronise music and video files with websites other than iTunes, such as Songbird, Banshee, Rockbox, and Winamp.
Buy from someone other than Apple? Obviously criminal behavior.
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- 4 votes
#3 - Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:36 AM EDT{"commentId":6810149,"authorDomain":"masternav"}
Not sure your point here Roy. For the record I get music from a number of online sources and bring it into iTunes to load into my iPod. I export music out of iTunes that I have purchased from the iTunes store. Potentially criminal I suppose if it weren't so easy and legitimate all at the same time. Can you clarify your point please - I am perhaps being spectacularily obtuse today.
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{"commentId":6818418,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
Buy from someone other than Apple? Obviously criminal behavior.
From Apple's point of view. See article.
{"commentId":6818418,"threadId":"565674","contentId":"2746134","authorDomain":"roybatty"}
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{"commentId":6828650,"authorDomain":"masternav"}
Actually see the information behind the article - check the source. Apple contacted the wiki site and said they would file a cease and desist order against them if they allowed the posting to continue as publically accessible. The site buckled immediately to avoid having to deal with the cease and desist order. EFF stepped in and offered to front for the site owner in order to challenge the alleged enforcement of DMCA protection against the site owners. And just for the record Roy do you yourself have any popular intellectual property to protect from predation? Point in fact, the issue in question was hacking around the more recent iPhone/ iPod Touch protections. The earlier iPod formats have been successfully hacked and Apple has done nothing about them - no lawsuits - nothing. And that population of music players consistutes the majority of the active iPods in use - even though iPhone/iPod Touch users are growing rapidly.
See? doing some research and actually understanding the situation (note I didn't say Apple was right in what they were doing) is much better than just belching an uninformed opinion.
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{"commentId":6832137,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}
#3 was intended as a humorous comment. Lighten up.
BTW, as a matter of full disclosure, I own Apple stock. Do you?
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{"commentId":6832813,"authorDomain":"masternav"}
Heh. That was light Roy! You outghta see me when I pull out the heavy stuff. I own Apple, Microsoft, and a bunch of other tech stocks, btw. I was referencing the fact that the Telegraph (always an excellent source of inaccuracy) managed once again to miss the facts but capture the innuendo. Sorry if that last gibe seemed directed at your post. I post intermittently during the day and rush entirely too much in getting them in.
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{"commentId":6790475,"authorDomain":"lavacano201014"}
See, this is why I hate Apple. They are creating a monopoly over the MP3 player market with their iPod (to the point where America thinks the iPod isn't an MP3 Player, it's just "the iPod"), and they are also locking their monopoly into B.S. bloatware that locks down your music in such a way that only Apple's things can use it. And if that wasn't bad enough, they're forcing this bloatware (known as iTunes) down the throats of anyone who tries to install QuickTime, and all QuickTime is, is a bunch of codecs.
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#4 - Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT{"commentId":6790921,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
WTF are you talking about? I have an iPod (more than one actually,) and I have iTunes...and I use my music wherever and however I damn well please. No lock-down whatsoever. Please try to refrain from spreading FUD.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":6810815,"authorDomain":"masternav"}
Rather than take the narrow view gecko, let's look at the broad view of lavacano's comment:
Apple "created a monopoly" with the iPod. They literally forced all of those consumers to purchase an iPod and run it with iTunes. No one had any choice in this matter, the Apple police went house to house, and anyone who had any kind of portable music device was immediately forced to their knees and made to sign their souls over to Apple. Said souls were then summarily replaced with iPods. Having done that they have subsequently forced everyone of those soulless consumers to only use Apple devices and software - think Resident Evil and you have the picture apparently. Only the truly enlightened, like lava for example, can even perceive the depths of the impact of this and scream sanity against the ravening hoards of mindless and soulless zombies reflexively and spastically now buying Apple devices, and content through iTunes. Thank God someone is still able to fight off this horrendous juggernaut of capitalist mindthink.
You go lavacano201014! Be our iTuneinator Savalation dude.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":6818079,"authorDomain":"jl6rdhd"}
I'm glad to see this. I can't stand Apple. They are far worse then Microsoft ever was, and they get away with it.
Sony got in trouble when their music discs had a license agreement that if you chose to play the CD you placed into your PC to play or loaded it to you PC library to play, they intern, owned your PC. Or when they thought they could have you spend hundreds on a blue ray player that they would essentially own if their chip told them you were miss using the product, such as trying to play movies burned to disc that may have been pirated etc etc. Monopoly is a great word for crapple, except they only monopolize their customers.
I bet if Apple did it, they would get away with it. That's probably because Apple sells to loyal customers and doesn't have a real market. I hope Apple gets their ass's handed to them.
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- 1 vote
#5 - Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:18 PM EDT{"commentId":6828753,"authorDomain":"masternav"}
VRH, do you hate Apple because they "are far worse than Microsoft ever was"? And why the past tense? Is Microsoft now better than it ever was? Or are you somehow worried that Microsoft will become like Apple? And how exactly does Sony's issue relate to what Apple is doing? Are you perhaps a disguntled holder of Microsoft stock looking to blame Apple for your deflated stock price? (disclaimer: I own both Apple and Microsoft stocks). Please put some structure around your statements that relate to the article.
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